VI. Young Aegon vs. The World Tree

So thus far we’ve talked about how The Three Eyed Crow is instigating war between mankind and the Others in order to establish a stable monarchy. In Part V we’ve talked about how Bloodraven and Quaithe are manipulating the mother of dragons, pushing her on to embrace her conquerors side and bring her dragons to Westeros. They want her to mistrust all potential suitors and political allies that might pull her into their conspiracy. Including, her supposed nephew Aegon…



Young Aegon’s Precious Little Life

This is the beginning of the essay…

If he’s real, Aegon VI Targaryen, son of Rhaegar, would be the Targaryen heir to the throne. He’d be King ahead of the Mother of Dragons, ahead of R+L=Jon Snow, and Moonboy for all we know. Yet Quaithe, and by extension Bloodraven, seem pretty against Daenerys lending him any military aide to take back his rightful throne. Which begs several questions. Why not? Is Aegon who he claims to be? Is he who Jon Connington thinks he is? Is he who HE seemingly thinks he is? And how much does that really matter? Because one way or another the Old God’s are against him.

Now, for those of you who haven’t heard Aegon Blackfyre theory, here is one of the many assertions of it. It’s pretty convincing, and for some this theory is enough a reason for Brynden Rivers, (who spent his entire tenure as Hand fighting off Blackfyre Rebellions orchestrated by his envious half brother) to be against Young Griff. But is it really? If Aegon were a Blackfyre, would it be enough reason for the the Three Eyed Crow to be against him? I mean, this made sense for the young Brynden Rivers, but does it make sense for the Last Greenseer? Does it make sense for a telepathic shaman working with the Children of the Forest? Does an ancient race of nature people care about Targaryen legitimacy and the line of succession?


No. Absolutely not.


With Leaf for example being over 200 years old, we can pretty much presume that the 300 years since Aegon the Conqueror established dominion over Westeros is relatively short for the Children. So, to think they would care whether the person who sits the throne is a descendant of some human named Daeron or some human named Daemon, is kind of silly actually. In fact I’d propose that whether the ruler is legitimate in terms of male primogeniture and Andal religious customs at all is totally irrelevant to the Children.

So then why is the Bloodraven (and Quaithe) Old Gods conspiracy opposed to a Dany and Aegon alliance? Is the 125 year old Greenseer letting petty personal grudges define nation building political policy? I’m gonna say no. Not only would it make the Children relatively irrelevant, it also goes against how Brynden Rivers talks about himself to Bran.

 “I have my own ghosts. A brother I loved, a brother I hated, a woman I desired. In my dreams I see them still, but no word of mine has ever reached them.”- Lord Brynden, ADWD

This quote really indicates that the guy has moved on from selfish personal desires, and it really wouldn’t make sense for him to be lying about that to a little kid when really it’s something he could easily just not mention. (This quote also heavily indicates that Quaithe is actually not Shiera).

But still, Bloodraven and Quaithe, and the Children, are against Young Aegon. Now this is where we could drive into some deep, deep, deep tinfoil, about the origins of the Blackwood/Bracken feud being a proxy war between the Children of the Forest and their Greenseer’s, and the Deep Ones and their Stone Men, in some kind of land vs. sea conflict which underpins the story. But I’m going to steer away from mountain of tinfoil.


Dresses and Dragons: The Color Conundrum

It’s the dress color fiasco of 2014 all over again. But this time with dragons.

 “In a room sit three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man with his gold. Between them stands a sellsword, a little man of common birth and no great mind. Each of the great ones bids him slay the other two. ‘Do it,’ says the king, ‘for I am your lawful ruler.’ ‘Do it,’ says the priest, ‘for I command you in the names of the gods.’ ‘Do it,’ says the rich man, ‘and all this gold shall be yours.’ So tell me – who lives and who dies?” – Varys’ Riddle

Now far be it by me to debunk Blackfyre theory, because it’s very probably correct. But I think Aegon’s identity is a bit more complex than a simple “ah ha!” Scooby Doo revelation. I think the case of Young Griff speaks more to the difficulty or even impossibility in defining paternity under feudalism in the middle ages, and more specifically, to Varys riddle.

You See, Aegon is the living embodiment of Varys’ riddle, as he is a character who is either the most powerful person in Westeros, or no one, or anything in between, based on who people believe he is. Because Jon Connington, the closest living person to Rhaegar Targyaryen, believes Aegon to be true, and the only person who could bear witness otherwise, Gregor Clegane, is unable to speak, there is no person with more credibility on the matter who could debunk his identity. Aegon is able to be whoever he needs to be, for whoever he needs. For Jon Connington and most of Westeros, he is Aegon VI Targaryen, son of Rhaegar. For the Golden Company, he is likely Aegon Blackfyre. For the Dornish, he is the surviving son of Elia Martell.  And on the flip side, Daenerys may be turned against him by Tyrion Lannister based on the BELIEF that he is a Blackfyre.

Who Aegon’s actual parents literally are, isn’t technically what matters. What matters are who people believe his parents are. The irony of Young Griff is that both his allies and his enemies will be completely defined by the unverifiable belief in who his parents are, but not who he actually is as a human being. Heck Illyrio himself could potentially be being deceived as to the boy’s true parentage. We may never get proof.


And even for us as readers, if we were able to surmise that Aegon was indeed a Blackfyre, then that takes us back to the initial question of whether Daeron II truly was the son of Aegon IV at all, or if the legitimized Daemon Blackfyre truly was the legal heir. Determining legitimacy in feudalism is just endlessly problematic for the time. And thus Varys riddle truly does rule the politics of Westeros…. Until it doesn’t.


Where Varys’ Riddle Goes to Die

Let’s reexamine Varys’ riddle, but this time let’s change one thing about it. Let’s give the King a dragon.

or Queen…

Varys: “In a room sit three great men, a king with his gigantic fire breathing dragon, a priest, and a rich man with his gold. Between them stands a sellsword, a little man of common birth and no great mind. Each of the great ones bids him slay the other two. ‘Do it,’ says the king, ‘for I am your lawful ruler and if you don’t this fucking dragon will eat all three of you.’ ‘Do it,’ says the priest, ‘for I command you in the names of the gods.’ ‘Do it,’ says the rich man, ‘and all this gold shall be yours.’ So tell me – who lives and who dies?”
Tyrion: The King lives. The priest and the rich man obviously fucking die.
Varys: Ah, but my dear friend, what if the sellsword believes..
Tyrion: Are you serious? then he’s an idiot, and the dragon eats him too. The King still lives.
Varys: But… but what if… what if I don’t believe dragons have power?
Tyrion: Good luck with that.


Belief is power, money is power, knowledge is power, but Cersei was right too.

Ultimately Vary’s riddle is still relevant, and it serves as a critique of the nature of power as it manifests through societal, political, financial, and military structures. As long as you need various independent wills to believe something in order to utilize power, Varys’ riddle applies. This is particularly true under feudalism, where all power came through oaths, which ultimately rested on human belief in the necessity of the social contract. But it also applies to everything from the power of the church, which draws power from people’s faith, to the power of money, which only has value because human institutions trust that it has value.


But things can happen whether you believe in them or not.


Now yes, a monarchs ability to control dragons is a powerful intimidation tactic, and that human belief in the power of dragons can indeed be used as a diplomatic tool to get one’s way. But that belief is rooted in a capital F-FACT. A fact which doesn’t really depend on the loyalty or belief of any human beings. If you have control over a flying fire breathing monster, you have an enormous military advantage, and no one has to agree with you, or be afraid of you, or believe it, for it to be true. Of course they will believe it…. because of just how blatantly true it is.

what part of dragons

And this is a major problem for Young Aegon, the narrative embodiment of Varys riddle. Because Aegon is NOT intended to be one of the Three Heads of the Dragon.


The Clash at Dragonhead

The following is a streamline explanation of why Aegon, Tyrion, and Victarion, are not intended to be Heads of the Dragon. Since both Dany and the audience are hearing and trying to interpret the prophecy, Dany and the audience will be together.

Dany + Audience: “I just wanna get to Westeros. What do I do with all these prophecies?”
Quaithe: “Dany, everyone is going to try to take your dragons. Remember the Undying okay?”
Undying: “Yea Dany, remember how we showed you Rhaegar with his newborn baby saying there needed to be one more, because the dragon has three heads.
Dany + Audience: “Got it. Everyone wants dragons. But there’s gotta be 3 heads.
Quaithe: Yes. Also, don’t trust Aegon, Tyrion, or Victarion.”
Dany + Audience: “But who are the heads of the dragon who I should share my dragons with? Is it be Aegon or Tyrion or Victarion?”
Quaithe: “Did I fucking stutter.”

Essentially, right there are three of the most popular proposed 3 heads of the dragon, and Quaithe has essentially vetoed all of them. In the last part we established that Quaithe and Bloodraven are most likely working together. Even taking Quaithe alone though, Tyrion, Aegon, and Victarion are clearly not intended to be among the 3 heads of the dragon.

Note: Regardless of Tyrion’s parentage (I believe it’s Joanna and Tywin), Tyrion not being a head of the dragon doesn’t in my opinion define his parentage, and doesn’t even necessarily mean he won’t ride a dragon. It just defines how he fits into the Old God’s plan.

See a common misconception is the idea that everything in the House of the Undying is to be read as clues from Martin to the reader, but in fact they are more specifically visions meant for Daenerys, and in our story it is Daenerys who interprets them, is shaped by them, and must act based on them. It’s Quaithe who pulls Dany towards internalizing and acting upon the sentiments expressed in the House of the Undying (where the Three Heads of the Dragon are mentioned), and Quaithe is, again, pretty clearly against the idea of Dany trusting in Tyrion, Aegon, or Vic. So it follows, that for Quaithe, and Bloodraven (who may actually be the reason Rhaegar was intent on a 3 headed dragon in the first place), those 3 characters are not heads of the dragon.

figure it out Khaleesi

So who are?

Prophecy is Providence: The Three Heads of the Leviathan

“Aegon… What better name for a king… He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire“; When Rhaegar’s eyes meet Daenerys’s, he says either to her or Elia, “There must be one more… The dragon has three heads“, and he picks up a silver harp and begins to play.” – Vision in the house of the Undying of Rhaegar speaking to Elia, (Daenerys IV, ACOK)

Appearing right next to the only in text mention of the series title, “the dragon has three heads” is one of the most heavily speculated on quotes in the series. But the vision (and clarifications by Martin on it) actually tells us a lot. It tells us Rhaegar was expecting to have a 3rd child who would be a third head of the dragon, and it tells us Rhaegar believed Aegon was the Prince That Was Promised. We also know from an SSM that the Third Head of the Dragon doesn’t have to be a Targaryen.

Side Note: Given that Martin has gone on record that R’hllor is based on the Zoroastrian faith, the ‘Three Heads of the Dragon,’ aside form mirroring the Targaryen sigil and the events of Aegon’s Conquest, actually reference the Zoroastrian ‘Azi Dahaka.’ The Azi Dahaka is an evil three headed dragon of the winter apocalypse.

Based on the fact that Rhaegar Targaryen was largely being influenced by prophecy from the Old Gods/Bloodraven, and the concept of a song of Ice and Fire, can presumably be attributed to those who sing the song of the earth. So the Song of Ice and Fire, and the Three Heads of the Dragon, can all be looked at as prophecy which Bloodraven, Quaithe, and the Children of the Forest are using.

When we look at it through this lens, things become a little more clear. Who decides the Three Head of the Dragon? well Martin aside, on one level it’s Daenerys Targaryen who is actively trying to make sense of the prophecy and apply it towards her conquest of Westeros. But on another level, it’s the Old Gods, the Children, Bloodraven, and Quaithe, who are using this prophecy to manipulate events. And using this line of thinking, we can actually narrow this down a bit. Instead of just asking who the Three Heads of the Dragon are in terms of ‘who will ride a dragon?’ maybe what we should be asking are ‘who are the Three Heads of the Dragon for Bloodraven?’

“Perhaps we can fly. All of us. How will we ever know unless we leap from some tall tower? No man ever truly knows what he can do unless he dares to leap.” – Euron Greyjoy (The Reaver, AFFC)

Well the first candidate I’d like to get out of the way is Euron ‘Crow’s Eye’ Greyjoy. His personal sigil, and a lot of his dialogue, have often been theorized to indicate a connection to the Three Eyed Crow. Afterall, he seems obsessed with flying. He also seemingly appears in the ‘Bride of Fire’ segment of the House of the Undying, Quaithe might not be warning Dany against him, he claims to have got a Dragon Binding horn from the ruins of Old Valyria, and he seems hell bent on marrying Daenerys and producing an heir with her. So, he might our guy. Except he isn’t.

Tough break Euron…

So why isn’t it Euron? Well, because Euron is fucking crazy, is trying to use a horn to steal dragons, and he is hell bent on marrying Daenerys, and yet the last part of the Bride of Fire prophecy is about Jon, and so Jon is supposed to be King. Which means at some point, the mad man Euron Crow’s eye  probably has to die.

Still we have Daenerys, and we have Jon. So who is the third head of the dragon?

Well, assuming it’s not Bran Stark and has to be a dragonrider… I think on order to figure out the answer, the best thing to do is pretend you’re Bloodraven, and you want to put someone on a dragon to fight a war against the Others. Who would you want? Preferably someone already strategically located for that war. You’d want someone who can fight. Someone less focused on the civil wars of mankind and more focused on the war of ice and fire. Heck someone from a House who swears by it would be nice right?  And someone who can ride a dragon would be a plus, though dragon rider blood might not be totally necessary, as you do have Bran, who can probably warg dragons… so maybe you want someone who Bran would want riding him……?

Get it? because I said ‘ride him’
anyone? it was a joke…
See Arya got it.
Okay okay, I’ll move on.


Anyways, the anwser is Meera Reed.


Yes really. The Third (or perhaps first?) Head of the Dragon is none other than Meera Reed.

(and no, despite Kit and Ellie’s absurdly similar hair I don’t think she is Jon’s twin sister or the daughter of Lyanna Stark at all.)


The Dragonfly Among the Reeds

“He (Dunk) sat naked under the elm while he dried, enjoying the warmth of spring air on his skin as he watched a dragonfly move lazily among the reeds. Why would they name it a dragonfly? he wondered. It looks nothing like a dragon.” – Dunk, The Hedge Knight

“but, I’m a Reed…”

So in The Hedge Knight, there is this really odd quote. Ser Duncan the Tall makes a comment about dragonflies, wondering why they are called that despite not actually looking like dragons. Now, Duncan’s Squire eventually becomes King Aegon V, and his eldest son Duncan Targaryen, or ‘Duncan the Small’ (who is named after Dunk), eventually gives up all claim to the throne to marry a common girl called Jenny of Oldstones, earning him the title ‘Prince of Dragonflies’. Now Jenny of Oldstones and Duncan the Small’s love is famous, they are together for some 20 years till Duncan dies at Summerhall, and they are the subject of many songs, including the one Rhaegar sang at the Tourney of Harrenhall. The histories don’t mention them having any children, but they also don’t mention that they didn’t. It seems likely though that any children they have would remain under the radar, as they would never be granted any land nor titles.

Now Jenny of Oldstones, was a peasant woman. ‘Oldstones‘ is not actually a family name, but rather a ruined castle in the Riverlands where Jenny supposedly hung out, once belonging to House Mudd. She could have been a distant descendant of House Mudd, but there’s no real evidence for that. That said, we do get the sense that Jenny of Old Stones has a connection to the Old Gods, as she was a friend to the Ghost of High Heart, who brought her to court to deliver the infamous Prince That Was Promised Prophecy. Yet especially after Duncan’s death, any child of Duncan and Jenny would be almost like commoner, who could hold no lands or titles. But they could marry the Lord of Greywater Watch.

oh yea…

The spouse of Howland Reed is one Jyana (no family name given). We know next to nothing about her, but that she and Howland supposedly have their first child Meera around the same time as Jon and Dany are born. Given that Howland spent a lot of time at the Isle of Faces directly before going to the Tourney at Harrenhall, and he and his son Jojen seem deeply influenced by the Old Gods, it wouldn’t surprise me that Howland also at some point married the daughter of the Prince of Dragonflies, and Jenny of Oldstones. This would not be a smart political match necessarily, but then again Howland Reed’s son and heir basically went North on a suicide mission. Howland and House Reed seems relatively disinterested with politics, and far more so in serving his liege lords and the will of the Old Gods. So if Jyana were the daughter of Duncan and Jenny, then Meera Reed’s grandfather on her mother’s side would be half Valyrian blooded, and though not a Targaryen nor in any way royalty, could have the ability to ride a dragon passed down to her. She would be a Dragon flying among the Reeds, yet she would look nothing like a dragon, and would fit perfectly into Bloodraven’s plan as our third head.

Now I realize that might be a tough sell for some, but even if we put aside the ‘Meera Reed = Dragonfy theory’, let’s consider the other facts…

Meera Reed was taught by her father to be a skilled fighter, like her brother she is keeps and is loyal to the will of the Old Gods, and she is disinterested in political squabble or entitlement yet loyal to the Starks of Winterfell, going so far as to call Bran her prince. Beyond that, considering that a war is coming to the war North, Meera Reed is already in the far North with seemingly nothing else left to do. Even from a narrative standpoint, though it’s certainly not essential she be given a dragon to justify her continued existence in the story, it would be efficient to utilize this central character to Bran’s story who has nothing else to do for the last two books but watch Bran (that said, I totally acknowledge there are other possibilities there). Clearly Hodor has some mysteries left to uncover, why not Meera?

Good. Because we’ve got a weapon for her….

Oh yea… there is one more clue I should mention about Meera Reed. You see long ago when Lord Commander Brynden Rivers disappeared North of the Wall, he brought with him one of the two remaining Valyrian steel swords of House Targaryen, the slender Dark Sister.

In Dark Sister, we have a famous Valyrian steel sword which went missing with Brynden Rivers, once used by one of the original Three Dragon Riders who conquered Westeros. Now, many think that Dark sister is meant for Arya, as the original outline for ASOIAF had Arya North of the Wall killing White Walkers with Needle. Except Arya’s story has totally transformed since then, and she already has a sword, which has too much sentimental value to get traded in for another. Still, Dark Sister is a sword meant to be wielded by a woman, and it carries the rare power to kill the Others. And at the same time, North of the Wall, in the Cave of the Last Greenseer, we have a young female warrior, herself essentially drafted into the fight against the Others, with a potential ability to ride dragons, or at the very least she has young Bran Stark (who is in love with her) and who can likely possess dragons. Can we think of a more advantageous dragon rider for the battle between Ice and Fire than this old god keeping warrior crannogmen who swears by Ice and Fire?

Oh yea!

and then it was time… for Westeros to burn in the sweet fire, of the CLASH. AT. DRAGONHEAD!


And there you have it. Though we don’t know who will end up riding dragons, Dany, Jon, and Meera serve as the likely candidates to act as the Three Heads of the Dragon in the war against the Others. That said, we have to understand there is a difference between who is intended by the Old gods to ride a dragon, and who will ride them. Plans don’t always work out like they are supposed to. Still, if Bloodraven and Quaithe have it their way, neither Tyrion, Victarion, Quentyn, nor Aegon, are meant to have the dragons they seek in order to accomplish their personal ends.


EDIT: Never mind. All three heads of the dragon are Bran.


Unfortunately (for him), the odds seem pretty stacked against Young Aegon, and even if he can defeat the weakened Lannisters, even an alliance with the Faith Militant won’t likely help him against the plot of the Weirwood Leviathan. Though I haven’t gone into it, I think Bloodraven’s lack of support for Aegon is less about who he is and more about who he isn’t.


All Hail Henry Tudor

Henry Tudor
Historical Aegon’s eyes are clearly not in the right place on his head.

Though he doesn’t write straight allegory, our author has gone on record as being heavily influenced by the events of the War of the Roses. Though the War of the Roses has no parallel to the White Walkers, things like the Yorks and Lancasters seem to influence the Starks and Lannisters. And in looking at comparisons between the War of the Roses and our story, Young Griff actually parallels  Henry Tudor, the real historical figure who ultimately comes out on top.

Henry Tudor had a claim to the throne yet seemingly came out of nowhere. He crossed the English Channel(like the Narrow Sea) and he brought with him English exiles (like the Golden Company), he gathered support from his Welsh ancestry (like Aegon’s supposed Dornish side). He landed at the seat of his uncle Jasper, who raised him (Jon Connington and Griffins Roost), who was his biggest political supporter. His invasion was prepped for across the sea by his mother Margaret Beaufort (Varys), and he lived in the Court of Francis Duke of Brittany (Illyrio Mopatis). And in fact, Henry Tudor even had attributed to him the Welsh prophecy of Y Mab Darogan, The Destined or Prophesised Son, or Son of Destiny. Everyone see the parallels here?


So is Aegon legitimate? Will we ever really know? Was Daeron II ever legitimate? Does it matter? Will Aegon crash and burn in the face of 3 dragons? Will the 3 heads of the dragon really be Dany, Jon, and Meera? is Meera Reed a dragonfly? And will 5th suitor theory come true and give him the edge he needs? Could Aegon be proclaimed the story’s black sheep candidate for Azor Ahai?  And in the end, could Aegon, if you-want to call him Aegon, come out on top after all?

There you have it folks. Two Princes for Westeros. In Part 7 we’ll talk about the other prince, The Prince that Was Promised, and the big tropes behind Jon and Daenerys, and the political consequences and advantages of them.


The Blackwood Greensight of the Red Woman and the White Wolf

This will be a one shot essay that is not part of the main Weirwood Leviathan series. A little bit more tinfoil than normal, but I hope you all enjoy it. I’m gonna prove Melisandre has greensight like Jojen, though she isn’t a true greenseer like Bran.


Hold onto your hats because I’m about to turn tinfoil into weirwood. I’m going to prove that the white wolf and the lady in red are actually related. Sort of….

“To eat of human meat was abomination, to mate as wolf with wolf was abomination, and to seize the body of another man was the worst abomination of all.” – Varamyr (ADWD, Prologue)

All three of these have happened. We will get to this…


Star Crossed: The Sea Star and The Red Star

I feel like grandma Serenei would be the type of grandmother who objects to being called grandma.

So once upon a time, way back during the reign of Aegon the Unworthy, there was a lady from Lys, descended from a now impoverish Valyrian noble family, and this lady was called Serenei. Serenei of Lys. We know little of her appearance, but she was apparently cold and haughty, and yet noted by many to be the most lovely of Aegon IV’s mistresses. And also she was also the last, with the King taking no more mistresses after her. Though we do know she appeared young and beautiful, Serenei was rumored to practice dark arts to retain her youth and beauty, and was actually rumored to be far older than the King. Yet somewhere around 180 AC., Serenei died in childbed, after giving birth to her only daughter with the King, Shiera Seastar.

“Lady Shiera does. Lord Bloodraven’s paramour. She bathes in blood to keep her beauty” – Egg (The Sworn Sword)

The famously beautiful Shiera Seastar, was one of the Great Bastards of Aegon IV and the lover of Brynden Rivers (much to the jealousy of Aegor “Bittersteel” Rivers). She, like her mother, was also rumored to practice dark arts to retain her youth and beauty. Shiera apparently had classic Lyseni/Valyrian features, and wore a famed necklace of sapphires and emeralds to reflect her uniquely mismatched eyes. Now we don’t have any confirmation on what ends up happening to Shiera, as she sort of just disappears from the story with no mention of her death. But from what we do know, Shiera “Star of the Sea” is actually described with an uncanny similarity to Melisandre, “the Red Star.”

Description of Shiera:
“She was the greatest beauty of her age, a slender and elegant woman, slim of waist and full of breast … She had a heart-shaped face, full lips, and her mismatched eyes were strangely large and full of mischief; her rivals said she used them to melt men’s hearts.”

Description of Melisandre from Maester Cressen’s POV:
Slender she was, graceful, taller than most knights, with full breasts and narrow waist and a heart-shaped face. Men’s eyes that once found her did not quickly look away, not even a maester’s eyes. Many called her beautiful.

I should note that credit goes to this thread for the compilation as well as for a ton of the groundwork on this theory…


Shiera Seastar
Melony’s mom…

All of the same words are being used to describe these two characters. Slender, slim waist, full breast, heart shaped face, beauty, graceful/elegant, and eyes which captivate men.

Now, some of these are common describing words, while others such as ‘heart shaped face’ are not so commonly used (though it is attributed to Daena ‘the Defiant’ Targaryen the mother of Daemon Blackfyre, as well as Jeyne Westerling, who is actually the great granddaughter of the Essosi blood magic practitioner Maggy the frog). Still, the similarity in description is so congruent it’s uncanny. Not only visually, but Melisandre is also, like Shiera’s mother, apparently older than she appears, like Shiera a practitioner of sorcery, and just as Shiera wore emeralds and sapphires around her neck to match her eyes, meanwhile Melisandre wears a ruby around her neck to match hers.

Coincidence? Maybe. But lets keep going. Because I think the similarity here is intentional, and I think Melisandre is Shiera Seastar’s daughter. Which begs the question, who would be Melisandre’s father? Hmmm….

(Yup, it’s Bloodraven.)


The Red Eyes of House Blackwood

Although Shiera supposedly took many lovers and had many admirers, I believe the father of her child is none other than Brynden Rivers. Because aside from her similarity to Shiera, Melisandre has a few key similarities to Bloodraven. Melisandre is described as being ‘pale’ and having red eyes, and seemingly unnaturally red hair. Now whether or not her eyes are naturally red, having red eyes is an extremely rare thing in ASOIAF, and is typically found in those with the gift of greensight. The Woods Witch/Ghost of High Heart is a red eyed albino. Jojen Reed has the gift of greensight, and he has unnaturally deep green eyes. And Brynden Rivers, an albino greenseer, also has red eyes.

“Those you call the children of the forest have eyes as golden as the sun, but once in a great while one is born amongst them with eyes as red as blood, or green as the moss on a tree in the heart of the forest. By these signs do the gods mark those they have chosen to receive the gift.” – Brynden Rivers (Bran III, ADWD)

Excuse the rushed mousepad photoshop, but on the left we have Melisandre closer to her book complexion, and on the right we have what Melisandre would look like if she were actually white haired.

So is Melisandre an albino as well? Well she does have pale skin, and she has red eyes too. We often assume that this is just GRRM making her look the part of a Red Priestess, while others assume that all of this is a glamour to make her look the part. But what if it’s a bit of both? What if Melisandre is an albino with the gift of greensight like her father, except she dyes her naturally white hair red as tribute to the Red God? Well sure enough, GRRM has gone on record stating that Westeros has better technology with dyes, particularly red, than medieval Europe did.

Now if we assume from this that Melisandre is the daughter of Brynden Rivers and Shiera Seastar, a lot of things about Melisandre start to make a whole new kind of sense. I’d even say a much better, much more logically consistent kind.

(Side note, the Ragnarok theory of ASOIAF also compares Bloodraven to Loki and Melisandre to Hel. And in Norse mythology, Hel is actually the daughter of Loki.)

What’s in a name? That which we call Mel

“Strange voices called to her from days long past.“Melony,” she heard a woman cry. A man’s voice called, “Lot Seven.” She was weeping, and her tears were flame. And still she drank it in.”- (Melisandre, ADWD)

Now meet grandma Missy. She’s also dead.
Something we can gather from Melisandre’s POV in ADWD is that Melisandre was originally a slave child called ‘Melony’, who was sold to the Red Temple, and at some point changed her name to Melisandre (a combination of Mel and Cassandra). The name Melony or Melanie, actually means ‘Black,’ which seems an odd choice for the Red Woman right? Well, it is until we we consider that Brynden Rivers is a Blackwood on his mother’s side, and in fact, House Blackwood seems to have a tendency towards names starting with Mel. Bloodraven’s own mother’s name was Melissa Blackwood. A generation or so later, there is a Melantha Blackwood (likely the pregnant woman from Bran’s vision) who marries Lord Willam Stark, and who is actually the great grandmother of Ned Stark. The names Melony, and Melantha, and Melissa/Missy, are all related derivative names. The name Melisandre is almost the same name as Melissa, Brynden River’s mother‘s name. Melisandre is also an anagram for ‘mislearned’ as Melisandre has seemingly mislearned how to use her powers. And in fact, the name ‘Melanie‘ is a combination of the names of Brynden and Shiera’s mothers names; Melissa and Serenei. Yet another coincidence? maybe, but let’s keep going.

What fell upon Sea Dragon Point

You see, a big part of people’s aversion to this theory, is the notion that Melisandre is yet another secret Targaryen, which oddly enough is of very little relevance here. The significance of her bloodline seems mainly from her two (non Targaryen) grandmothers, and the main important thing here is that Melisandre is a secret Blackwood.

Now House Blackwood are actually extremely important to the story. For example, both Lyanna, Ned, and Rhaegar and Robert all have great grandmothers that are Blackwoods. Heck, though I’m not one to speculate about Dawn Age lore, if not a Stark I wouldn’t be surprised if the Last Hero were an ancestor of the Blackwoods. The Blackwoods show up constantly in the background of our story. And House Blackwood of Raventree Hall, a House that resides in the Riverlands, claim to have long ago ruled most of the Wolfswood until they were driven out by House Stark.

The Kings of Winter do not fuck around.

Which brings me to the conclusion that the Blackwoods (possible relatives of the extinct House Greenwood) are actually descended from the ancient Warg King, who ruled from Sea Dragon Point (deep in the Wolfswood) and was an ally of the Children of the Forest till he was defeated by House Stark in the savage ‘War of the Wolves’ during the Age of Heroes. House Stark apparently won the war in a wave of mutilation and then put his sons, beasts, and greenseers to the sword, and then the took the Warg King’s daughters as prizes, effectively taking the warg ability for themselves (which is likely where the Stark warg ability comes from). But as we have seen throughout the story, bloodlines usually don’t die off just like that.

My theory here is that the Warg King was likely Gaven Greywolf of House Greenwood, and when his House was extinguished by the Starks, the survivors fled to the Riverlands and founded House Blackwood, with the ‘Black’ being used to signify mourning.

The Blackwoods being descended from the warg king (Gaven Greywolf perhaps?) is further evidenced by the fact that the Blackwoods are one of the only Houses outside of the North which the Starks had married before Robert’s Rebellion, and in fact Cregan Stark takes a marriage to Black Aly Blackwood in exchanged for allowing a pardon for lord Corlys Velaryon to stand the end of the Dance of the Dragons. And as we know, Cregan was deeply interested in bringing powerful/magic blood into the Stark family, as his participation in the Dance on the side of the Blacks was predicated on the promise of marrying a Targaryen Princess into the Stark family. More on Cregan Stark in Weirwood Leviathan part 7.

Beyond that, just as the Warg King was allied with the children of the forest, the Blackwoods of Raventree Hall in Blackwood Vale, are also deeply reverent to the Old Gods (which is very very unusual at this point outside of the North). Raventree hall is built around an enormous Weirwood under which the Blackwoods bury their dead (a dead Weirwood in fact, as it was supposedly poisoned by the Brackens, who the Blackwoods hate).


The Warg King’s Red Shadow

Which brings us back to Melisandre. If we look at Melisandre as a secret Blackwood, a descendant of the Warg King, with the gift of greensight, then certain things about Melisandre start to fall into place.

“A face took shape within the hearth. Stannis? she thought, for just a moment … but no, these were not his features. A wooden face, corpse white. Was this the enemy? A thousand red eyes floated in the rising flames. He sees me. Beside him, a boy with a wolf’s face threw back his head and howled.” – (Melisandre, ADWD)
  • For example, Melisandre’s vision/encounter with Bloodraven becomes far more significant, as he would actually be her father. Note that this is literally the paragraph before she has a flashback to her childhood.

“Melisandre has gone to Stannis entirely on her own, and has her own agenda.” – GRRM

  • The fact that Melisandre, a total and unwavering believer in the Lord or Light, has (unlike Moqorro) come to Stannis on her own and with her own agenda, and is naming a different Azor Ahai than all the other Red Priests, makes more sense if we consider her visions may be coming from to her differently.
  • The reason that a young (potentially albino) slave girl named Melony, was ever bought by the Red Temple and brought to into the order of Red Priests, makes more sense, as Valyrian heritage and red eyes may have indicated possession of magical power or sight (or at least would have been appealing to red priests on a superstitious level). Just as theorists often believe Varys may have been used as a sacrifice due to his blood, Melisandre may have been bought by the Red Temple of R’hllor for hers.
She was stronger at the Wall, stronger even than in Asshai. Her every word and gesture was more potent, and she could do things that she had never done before. Such shadows as I bring forth here will be terrible, and no creature of the dark will stand before them. With such sorceries at her command, she should soon have no more need of the feeble tricks of alchemists and pyromancers.” – (Melisandre, ADWD)
  • Melisandre’s abilities being even more powerful at the Wall than they were at Asshai, suddenly becomes very logical if Melisandre is a Blackwood with the gift of greensight. The Wall was supposedly built with the help of the Children of the Forest (Snowgate even has a Weirwood gate), is thus likely woven with spells and magic of the Old Gods, and is in the North, where there are more Weirwoods, and thus the Old Gods have more power.

“May I touch your … wolf?” The thought made Jon uneasy. “Best not.” “He will not harm me. You call him Ghost, yes?” “Yes, but …” “Ghost.” Melisandre made the word a song. The direwolf padded toward her. Wary, he stalked about her in a circle, sniffing. When she held out her hand he smelled that too, then shoved his nose against her fingers. Jon let out a white breath. “He is not always so …” “… warm? Warmth calls to warmth, Jon Snow.” Her eyes were two red stars, shining in the dark. At her throat, her ruby gleamed, a third eye glowing brighter than the others. Jon had seen Ghost’s eyes blazing red the same way, when they caught the light just right. “Ghost,” he called. “To me.” The direwolf looked at him as if he were a stranger. Jon frowned in disbelief. “That’s … queer.” – Jon ADWD

  • And the fact that the (albino) direwolf Ghost, a creature of the North, so quickly takes to Melisandre, a priestess of Asshai, makes all the more sense this way. In fact, the other character for whom this occurs is Jojen Reed, who is also gifted with greensight. If Melisandre is a Blackwood, she would consequently not only have the gift of greensight, making her a likely a warg with power over beasts, but she’d be a descendant of the Warg King.
  • Even still the relationship to Ghost may go even further than that…


And here comes the tinfoil that was promised…. Melisandre and Ghost… may sort of have the same father.


Easy Renly…

In the first chapter of A Game of Thrones, after watching Lord Stark execute Gared, the Stark party happens to encounter a dead direwolf mother, who happens to have just given birth to six direwolf pups, one for each of the Stark kids, including Jon Snow. Coincidence? or did the Old Gods(Bloodraven) send them to the Stark children? I’m going to say the latter. I can’t stress enough the importance of this event, as GRRM has gone on record stating that this was literally the eureka moment which he came up with which inspired the entire series. Martin’s very origin idea for A Song of Ice and Fire, is this scene. So forgive me if I really read into it.

“When Martin was between Hollywood projects in the summer of 1991, he started writing a new science fiction novel called Avalon. After three chapters, he had a vivid idea of a boy seeing a man’s beheading and finding direwolves in the snow, which would eventually become the first non-prologue chapter of A Game of Thrones.”

There is a potential in canines, where a female is able to have a litter with children from more than one male. So Ghost as the lone albino pup, mirrors Jon’s status among the Stark children, as being related and yet somehow separate. The white, red eyed Ghost, is the first pup to open it’s eyes, which reflects not only the sentinel like Weirwoods, but the ever watchful albino Brynden ‘Bloodraven’ Rivers. Which leads me to the assertion, that not only did Bloodraven send the Direwolves to the Stark children, but he committed the abomination of warging into a direwolf and mating wolf with wolf. I believe that Bloodraven warged into the wolf which fathered Ghost, and it is for this reason that Ghost came out as an albino. Now I’m sure some of you are thinking: “Um, excuse me. Isn’t the idea of a person warging into an animal and having sex a little too weird for this story?” Well…

you know nothing
Because this story is dark and full of batshit insane happenings.

Crazy idea yes, but not too much when kept as more of a background element. Not only has GRRM written much stranger plotlines, but it’s specifically mentioned in the ADWD prologue that mating wolf with wolf while warging is a taboo, which indicates that somewhere in the story, this is relevant.


The Raven Brings the Sight

And there you have it folks. Here are out conclusions:

  • Melisandre is the daughter of Brynden Rivers and Shiera Seastar.
  • Melisandre and her maternal grandmother, and her mother, use dark arts to appear younger than they are. Her original name Melony is a combination of both her grandmother’s names.
  • Melisandre is an albino Blackwood warg who’s red eyes indicate the gift of greensight. She probably dyes her hair red. Yet she likely never learned of her telepathy like warging ability because it never developed, because all animals die very quickly in Asshai.
  • The reason Melisandre has declared a different Azor Ahai than the rest of her order is that she is receiving her visions a little differently due to her bloodline.
  • Melisandre is stronger at the Wall than Asshai because she is closer to the Weirwoods and the magic of the children of the forest, her ancestral magic. The red eyed Melisandre, like the unnaturally green eyed Jojen Reed, has the gift of greensight. Except unlike Jojen, Melisandre has spent her life far away from the source of her sight.
  • Bloodraven sent the direwolves and created Ghost by warging into a direwolf and committing the taboo act of mating wolf with wolf. This is bizarre to think about, but not so bizarre that Martin hasn’t explicitly mentioned it as a possibility.
  • In a bizarre sense, when Ghost met Melisandre, it was a meeting between magic warging half siblings, hence why Ghost is so immediately friendly to her.

And the implications?

“Strength of the beast, go into the man.” – Mirri Maz Durr (Daenerys VIII, AGOT)

  • If Melisandre sacrifices Ghost to Bring Jon Snow back to life, does that actually make her a kinslayer?
  • Has Bloodraven or the Old Gods, or both, used the fact that Melisandre has greensight to make her diverge from her order? making guiding her towards Jon and towards the front of the battle against the Others?

“When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone.” – Melisandre (Davos III, ASOS)

  • Given what we know now, could Melisandre play the part (among many other things) of a bleeding red star in some way?

“From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire.” – (Daenerys IV, ACOK)

  • GRRM has already set up Melisandre’s ability to cast shadows. Now that her power have greatly increased at the Wall, where the Old Gods are strong, what sort of shadow will Melisandre cast?
  • Will Jon’s time within Ghost make him warm up to Melisandre much like Ghost did?
  • And is Shiera Seastar Quaithe, or did Shiera die in childbirth like her mother? and if Shiera still lives, why would she be living in the same city as her daughter and never contacting her?
  • In a way, Melisandre has adopted total faith in the Lord of Light as a replacement father for the one she never had. And in doing so, and in burning the weirwoods, she has replaced her natural father (who is now part of nature), with an otherworldly father outside of nature. Yet it is the pull of her own nature which has caused her to diverge from the order of red priests, and she may unconsciously be serving the children of the forest.




Well we’ll just have to wait for the answers. for now I invite you to speculate.

Thank you to everyone who took the time to read this one shot essay, and I do hope you enjoyed it. I’ll be getting back to the Weirwood Leviathan series now, and I’ll leave you all with now with the sounds of Chris De Bugh…

V. how i manipulated your mother (of dragons)

So far we’ve gone over how the Last Greenseer is instigating a war between mankind and the Others to unite the many disparate factions of Westeros. But in order to defeat the Others and maintain sovereignty, the new monarchy needs power. And in trying to get power, Bloodraven’s plan met with resistance from the Maesters, leading to Robert’s Rebellion. Still baby Daenerys survived, and so everything is going to fall in line, someone needs to manipulate the Mother of Dragons.

SPOILER ALERT: Quaithe is working with Bloodraven to get Daenerys to Westeros, to marry and join with Jon Snow, and defeat the others.


Pa pa pa pa, pa pa pa pa… pa pa, da da da da, da da da da da…


Kids, by the Year of the False Spring, the Targaryen royal family had been manipulated by the Three Eyed Crow into birthing a child that would dragons again. And in response, in order to prevent the return of dragons the Maesters orchestrated Robert’s Rebellion by creating an alliance of the great houses of Westeros. After the scandalous Tourney at Harrenhal and the subsequent “abduction” of Lyanna Stark by Rhaegar Targaryen, Brandon Stark goes and challenges the crown prince, and the Mad King has him and his father executed, officially instigating the rebellion. A conflict which saw to the end of the Targaryen dynasty in Westeros after 300 years. But that’s not the end of out story. It’s just the beginning.

Rhaegar never got that dragon he wanted. No, instead Rhaegar went off to college, and his little sister Daenerys got all 3 dragons when she hatched them on the Dothraki Sea. And Dany has been a phenomenon ever since. She has been part of Bloodraven’s plan (not to mention Varys and Illyrio’s plan) since even before she hatched dragons. Even before she brings dragons back into the world, there are prophecies about Daenerys. And afterwards, Dany is approached by the Shadowbinder Quaithe.


Running with the Shadowbinder


Who is Quaithe? Though it’s possible she is just some random Shadowbinder named Quaithe, given the blatant and repeated star imagery around her, she is probably Ashara Dayne or Shiera Seastar. The Targaryen Great Bastard and former lover of Brynden Rivers Shiera Seastar would make sense since Quaithe is a ‘star’ that ‘shows Dany the Way’ on the Dothraki ‘Sea’, and her own Lyseni mother was a rumored practitioner of sorcery. Ashara Dayne, younger sister of Ser Arthur Dayne (a rumored but unlikely mother of Jon Snow) is also possible given, Ashara’s apparent suicide which never turns up a body, her role in the Tourney at Harrenhal, and the star imagery of House Dayne of Starfall.

One big reason people believe it would be Shiera though, is the theory that Melisandre is the daughter of Shiera Seastar and Brynden Rivers. Essentially this theory goes that Melisandre is described just like Shiera Seastar:

Description of Shiera: “She was the greatest beauty of her age, a slender and elegant woman, slim of waist and full of breast… She had a heart-shaped face, full lips, and her mismatched eyes were strangely large and full of mischief; her rivals said she used them to melt men’s hearts.”

Description of Melisandre: Slender she was, graceful, taller than most knights, with full breasts and narrow waist and a heart-shaped face. Men’s eyes that once found her did not quickly look away, not even a maester’s eyes. Many called her beautiful.”

Furthermore, Melisandre has red eyes, just like Bloodraven. And if she is an albino she could be glamouring her hair red. And even beyond that, Melisandre has a flashback where she was a child slave sold to the read temple named ‘Melony.’ It’s worth noting that house Blackwood has a tendency towards names beginning with ‘Mel,’ like with Melissa and Melantha Blackwood. And if her powers come from her Blackwood heritage, it would explain her abilities being strongest in the far North, and her ability to get charm  Ghost so easily.

Although, if Melisandre is the daughter of Shiera, and Shiera is Quaithe, another shadowbinder of Asshai… then why would Shiera have sold her daughter into slavery and then remained in the same city as the daughter she abandoned? Does it really make sense for Shiera to sell her daughter into slavery and then live in the same city as her daughter, serving totally different ends and yet never reconnecting with her? wouldn’t it make more sense if Shiera died giving birth to Melony(Melisandre) much like her mother Serenei died giving birth to her? Which would lead to Shiera’s child being sold into slavery… In that case, it might make more sense for Quaithe to be Ashara, and Melisandre to be the daughter of Bloodraven and Shiera, and Shiera to be dead…

Shiera or Ashara. One or neither of these ladies is Quaithe maybe.

But regardless of exactly who she is, Quaithe is a Shadowbinder of Asshai who gives Daenerys advice (sound advice really), astral projecting herself using glass candles to advise Dany in Meereen. And based on what that advice, and the fact that she is giving it to Daenerys so purposefully, I think we actually have enough information to determine what Quaithe is working towards. And yes, this goes to Bloodraven. Quaithe is most likely working with Bloodraven.

DISCLAIMER 1: For the record, if is seems like I am saying that everything is traced back to Bloodraven, that’s only because in this essay I’m mainly writing about Bloodraven’s scheme. There are countless characters and factions who are not working with or for Bloodraven (the Varys conspiracy, the Littlefinger scheme, the Faceless Men, the Undying of Qarth, the Faith Militant, the Dornish, the Stone Men, etc. etc.), I’m just not writing about them… yet.

DISCLIAMER 2: I believe it is a huge misconception that people in ASOIAF, (particularly magical people), do things for no logical reason or understandable motivation. For example, the idea that Quaithe is just an oracle that gives Dany visions because she can, or even more illogically, “because she is on the side of fire.” This is perhaps (I predict) the most widespread nonsense in ASOIAF fandom. The idea that this story of complex human characters and real motivations can be explained as an abstract struggle between cold solid water and combustion, is an absurdity to me. Regardless of what your beliefs are on the existence of R’hllor or a Great Other, real human characters do things for real human reasons. I mean, the Others might be on the side of “ice” but this is probably in the sense that cold is what they are made up of, and is their natural habitat. But the idea that characters can be broken down into being on the side of fire or the side of ice, is dualistic over simplification of real political and human interests.

DISCLAIMER 3: I should note a few important things about Quaithe. Although people assume that because the birthplace of the faith of R’hllor is Asshai, and Quaithe is from Asshai, that Quaithe must be affiliated with the Red Priests. But in fact Quaithe doesn’t appear to be a religious extremist at all. In all of her dialogue, Quaithe never once mentions the Lord of Light or indicates that she is working with any of the Red Priests who are preparing to court Daenerys to champion their religion. This really makes it unlikely that she is a red priest, considering that none of the other priests of R’hllor in our story seem to go 10 seconds without mentioning the Lord of Light or the flames. The Red Priests of Asshai, like any religion are clearly trying to expand their faith, but Quaithe is unlikely to be part of that expansion.


Quaithe Facts

I just wanted to include this.

Now that I’ve gotten that out, how about some Quaithe facts! What do we know about Quaithe?

  • She appears not to be a Red Priest, religious extremist, or servant of R’hllor.
  • She is not on the side of “fire” as an abstract concept.

To go north, you must journey south, to reach the west you must go east.” – Quaithe (ADWD)

  • She is giving Dany advise on how to ultimately go West, as well as North. Maybe northwest…

“Hear me, Daenerys Targaryen. The glass candles are burning. Soon comes the pale mare, and after her the others. Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin, the sun’s son and the mummer’s dragon. Trust none of them. Remember the Undying. Beware the perfumed seneschal.” – Quaithe (ADWD)

  • She warns Dany of the coming ‘bloody flux‘, and the Others.
  • She does not want Dany to trust the ‘Sun’s Son‘ Quentyn Martell or the ‘Mummer’s Dragon‘ Aegon (two potential Kings of Westeros if she joins them), the ‘lion‘ Tyrion or the ‘griffin‘ Jon Connington(two political actors bent on vengeance against the current Lannister regime), the ‘dark flame‘ Moqorro(apparently a red priest sent by High Priest in Volantis Benerro, but could be a warlock) or ‘kraken‘ Victarion(a brutish chump who also wants to marry her). So Quaithe doesn’t want Victarion, Quentyn, or Aegon to be King of Westeros alongside Daenerys, nor does she want JonCon, Tyrion, or Moqorro directing Dany and the might of her dragons.
  • She wants Daenerys to beware of the perfumed seneschal, whoever that may be.
  • She seemingly wants Dany to embrace her more absolutist, conqueror side, by going back to the Dothraki and her role as Khaleesi and Mother of Dragons.
  • She is pushing Dany towards Westeros, but not as a part of Varys’ scheme or part of Doran’s.

“Last of the three seekers to depart was Quaithe the shadowbinder. From her Dany received only a warning.“Beware,”the woman in the red lacquer mask said.“Of whom?” “Of all. They shall come day and night to see the wonder that has been born again into theworld, and when they see they shall lust. For dragons are fire made flesh, and fire is power.”” – ACOK (Daenerys II)

  • She warns Dany to leave Qarth, and from the beginning does not want Dany to trust the warlocks of Qarth, who wanted to hold Daenerys and her dragons captive at the House of the Undying to strengthen their own magic, yet Quaithe tells her to remember the Undying.

“A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness….mother of dragons, bride of fire” – Daenerys IV, ACOK

  • She astral projects herself across long distances to communicate/send visions. So she is clearly using burning glass candles, as this is exactly what glass candles are described to do. They seemingly gain their power from dragons existing, as they stopped working over a hundred years ago, and are now working again, matching the dragon timeline.


The Quaithe Bloodraven Connection

Taking all that into account, I think Quaithe is likely working with Bloodraven, as they are benefiting one another. We can presume contact between them is possible as Bloodraven is able to see through the flames (as shown in Melisandre’s chapter), and Quaithe communicates through the flames of Glass Candles. Bloodraven was responsible for the prophecy which brought dragons back into the world, and thus dragons are a part of his plan. Yet Dany is all the way in Essos, and the Old Gods do not have power where there are no Weirwoods. So Quaithe is a proxy to expand Bloodraven’s spy network beyond the lands where the Weirwoods grow. Quiathe doesn’t want Daenerys to join with Quentyn (Dorne) or Aegon, because Quaithe(based on asking Dany to remember the Undying) like Bloodraven(based on a lot of things) is backing Jon Snow, or a union between Dany and Jon. Hence why Quaithe steers her away from distractions and alternate suitors.


“A face took shape within the hearth. Stannis? she thought, for just a moment … but no, these were not his features. A wooden face, corpse white. Was this the enemy? A thousand red eyes floated in the rising flames. He sees me. Beside him, a boy with a wolf’s face threw back his head and howled. […] The wooden man she had glimpsed, though, and the boy with the wolf’s face … they were his servants, surely … his champions, as Stannis was hers.” – Melisandre (ADWD)


And why is who Dany marries so important? well aside from family name…

Guys, we talked about this.

Who Daenerys marries is critical because she has dragons, and dragons are power incarnate, which makes her the ultimate marriage alliance. She is essentially the Queen in chess. Whoever marries the Mother of Dragons gains the most significant military advantage there is, especially against the Others.

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As we saw with the Long Night, foreign war against Westeros’ frosty neighbors to the North created a social bottleneck effect, which strengthened House Stark and consolidated power throughout Seven Kingdoms. And as we saw with the last 300 years of Targaryen history, a central monarch with a monopoly on the use of force through dragons served to stabilize the continent far more so than the lack thereof. Therefore, Daenerys’ dragons are essential to the creation and stability of the world Bloodraven wants to build. Every piece of advice Quaithe is giving Daenerys, is pushing her towards fulfilling that end.


“Trust None of them”

We should take a quick aside here and talk about why Quaithe warned against Tyrion, because obviously Tyrion is important. Essentially it’s because at this point Tyrion is Varys’ man, and part of Varys’ plot. Now I’m not going to write about Varys’ plot because it’s essentially a different essay. Now in the show Varys is backing Daenerys, but in short, in the books Varys and Illyrio are clearly working to put Aegon on the throne, and Dany and Viserys were always accessories to that plan, but now that Dany has dragons they want Dany on Aegon’s side, because she is an obvious military advantage. So Quaithe obviously is going to warn Dany against anyone in Varys circle, including Tyrion.


But Tyrion is a bit of a wildcard. When he actually reaches Young Aegon he delays the meeting between Daenerys and Aegon, pushing Aegon to go to war without dragons, seemingly sabotaging Varys and Illyrio’s plan (for more on the Varys Illyrio conspiracy, BryndenBFish has an essay). Still, though not necessarily the case in the show, Tyrion’s primary concern (seemingly taking after his old man) seems to be the absolute annihilation of those who crossed him, and Daenerys and her dragons are likely a powerful tool to that end. Will Tyrion’s council be in her best interest? and more importantly, does it appear to be in the best interest of Bloodraven’s plan? In the books it’s rather unlikely, so warning Dany against Tyrion seemed to make sense for Quaithe.


#MotherofDragons #BrideofFire

But who is gonna sit next to her? Who will be bridegroom to the bride of fire? who will be the step-daddy of dragons?

The fact that Quaithe warns Dany against all potential suitors and advisors, but does not warn Dany against Jon Snow, is telling. Quaithe even tells Daenerys to remember the visions of the House of the Undying, which during the “Bride of Fire” segment, associated Jon; the blue flower growing from a chink in a wall of ice, with sweetness, and seemed to indicate that Dany must marry Jon Snow. Because I expect Jon is a part of Bloodraven’s plan, this indicates that Quaithe and Bloodraven are both backing Dany to bring her dragons to Westeros, marry and ally with Jon Snow, and inevitably take the throne and defeat the Others.

“Remember who you are, Daenerys, … The dragons know. Do you?” – Quaithe (ADWD, Daenerys X)

Dragons plant no trees. Remember that. Remember who you are, what you were made to be. Remember your words. “Fire and Blood,” Daenerys told the swaying grass. (ADWD Daenerys X)


And over the course of her character arc, Dany has very evidently come to take Quaithe’s warnings, and visions in general, very seriously, moving from being skeptical to deciding to follow her idea of what those prophecies mean, particularly in her last ADWD chapter. (If you want to read more on Daenerys and her relationship to prophecy, check out this essay by BryndenBFish). Despite all warnings against trusting in sorcery by the superstitious Dothraki, Dany wants very much to take back her homeland, and she is actively trying to place events which happen to her according to what Quaithe has told her. Which begs the question, was Quaithe giving prophecies, making predictions, or giving instructions? I think it’s a bit of all of them, and in any case the result is the same.

“Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars. A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly. A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness. . . . mother of dragons, bride of fire. . .” – Vision at the House of the Undying, ACOK Daenerys IV

I won’t really get into the prospect of Dany briefly marrying or joining up with Euron Greyjoy, if that indeed is supposed to be Euron, but the Kraken wedding the Dragon is mentioned by the Euron. Do Quaithe and Bloodraven want her to marry this mad man at all, or is she being warned against him? I’m skeptical of all of this, and so I welcome anyone to address that in the comments if they feel they have a strong idea for how this fits into everything. Due to his childhood accident, dialogue about flying, serving countless gods, and his personal sigil and title of “Crow’s Eye,” Euron is often theorized to have already been visited in his dreams by Bloodraven much like Bran, though whether they are still helping one another is questionable. And Euron is hell bent on marrying Daenerys, taking her dragons, producing an heir with her, and he seems to already be fighting her war before even meeting her. The most obvious way I could see this fitting into Bloodraven’s plan is that obviously Euron has ships to get her army across the narrow sea (though I have some difficulty believing that The Three Eyed Crow wants to bring the marauding Dothraki to Westeros to be citizens). Perhaps it’s also that Euron, essentially being a heretic, can get the Ironborn to abandon the old ways of the religion and the religion of the Drowned god (which is famously antagonistic to the old gods and the children of the forest), and also that when it comes to conquest, Euron Crow’s Eye is just plain brutal enough to get the job done. But Euron as King of Westeros? that would be ridiculous. Euron is no man’s notion of a King.

“Euron Greyjoy is no man’s notion of a king, if half of what Theon said of him was true.” – Robb Stark

Hence why Dany is subtly being prepared to marry Jon. Maybe Jon is Mr. Right, and Euron is at the very best Mr. Right Now, with ‘now’ presumably being in TWOW. Why marry Jon though? I’ll get into that in Part 7. But in a nutshell…

and that kids, is how Quaithe and Bloodraven manipulated your mother of dragons.



Which leaves the question; What about Aegon? Why not join with Aegon?


Well I’ll get into Aegon VI, and break down the infamous Three Heads of the Dragon, in part 6.